Comments on: ■ Hunter-gatherer populations show humans are hardwired for density https://persquaremile.com/2011/08/17/hunter-gatherer-populations-show-humans-are-hardwired-for-density/ Tue, 02 Jun 2015 14:30:43 +0000 hourly 1 By: J4Zonian https://persquaremile.com/2011/08/17/hunter-gatherer-populations-show-humans-are-hardwired-for-density/#comment-4612 Sat, 21 Jun 2014 22:53:27 +0000 https://persquaremile.com/?p=1420#comment-4612 The report here fails to mention the ecological impact of increasing density. Did the people really extract resources more “efficiently”? Or did they increase their impact on the land and begin to degrade the carrying capacity of the land instead of enhancing it simply by living, the way virtually all other organisms do? (and presumably, humans did at the lowest densities).

Are we hardwired for density or did people band together in areas of increasing density as that degradation began to form what might be called the attitude of empire in both them and their neighbors–the idea that’s what’s ours is ours and what’s yours is ours too, so we’re going to form a war party or army and take it? Maybe the complex societies formed as people started sitting around trying to invent new weapons and strategies for killing others and stealing from them.

It’s usually a bad idea to jump to conclusions before all the facts are in and all the alternatives are explored.

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By: Hunter Gatherer Populations Show We’re Wired for Density | AllThingsHuman https://persquaremile.com/2011/08/17/hunter-gatherer-populations-show-humans-are-hardwired-for-density/#comment-4611 Fri, 18 May 2012 06:56:13 +0000 https://persquaremile.com/?p=1420#comment-4611 […] days, but observing people who live in modern hunter-gatherer societes suggests that humans tend to live together, not spread out – even if we have room to do […]

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By: They visited, they ate, they got it on… « Rturpin's Blog https://persquaremile.com/2011/08/17/hunter-gatherer-populations-show-humans-are-hardwired-for-density/#comment-4610 Wed, 31 Aug 2011 03:22:13 +0000 https://persquaremile.com/?p=1420#comment-4610 […] immune system. So where did they fail? Maybe we were better able to scale the advantage of working in groups. The photo shows Egyptian rope making. Advertisement LD_AddCustomAttr("AdOpt", "0"); […]

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By: Tim De Chant https://persquaremile.com/2011/08/17/hunter-gatherer-populations-show-humans-are-hardwired-for-density/#comment-4609 Wed, 24 Aug 2011 19:46:53 +0000 https://persquaremile.com/?p=1420#comment-4609 That’s entirely possible, Henry. I haven’t seen any papers on it (can’t admit that I have looked, though), but it wouldn’t surprise me since none of these populations are very large.

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By: Henry King https://persquaremile.com/2011/08/17/hunter-gatherer-populations-show-humans-are-hardwired-for-density/#comment-4608 Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:56:36 +0000 https://persquaremile.com/?p=1420#comment-4608 Hi. Thanks for an interesting blog. Do you think that Allee effects could be at play here, so that increased density is actually a prerequisite to population growth instead of an outcome (at least up to some density threshold)?

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By: Dan Minkin https://persquaremile.com/2011/08/17/hunter-gatherer-populations-show-humans-are-hardwired-for-density/#comment-4607 Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:33:43 +0000 https://persquaremile.com/?p=1420#comment-4607 A 70% range expansion for a 100% population growth isn’t THAT big of a discrepancy, and could probably be explained by geographic concentration of resources. Even hunters, the most wide-ranging demographic according to this piece, would tend as they multiply to cluster more and more densely around buffalo watering holes or caribou migration paths.

Unfortunately, the conclusions of this discussion confuse land with resources. This may be an acceptable simplification in the case of an agricultural or industrial society, whose resources are developed by people where space for them exists, but not in a hunter-gatherer society, whose resources are located according to ecological factors. In these cases, 15% of the land does NOT mean 15% of the resources.

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By: Tim De Chant https://persquaremile.com/2011/08/17/hunter-gatherer-populations-show-humans-are-hardwired-for-density/#comment-4606 Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:04:02 +0000 https://persquaremile.com/?p=1420#comment-4606 A natural tendency or predisposition.

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By: jaylemeux https://persquaremile.com/2011/08/17/hunter-gatherer-populations-show-humans-are-hardwired-for-density/#comment-4605 Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:27:38 +0000 https://persquaremile.com/?p=1420#comment-4605 Define “hardwired.”

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By: Density is Natural | Urban Planning Blog https://persquaremile.com/2011/08/17/hunter-gatherer-populations-show-humans-are-hardwired-for-density/#comment-4604 Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:08:25 +0000 https://persquaremile.com/?p=1420#comment-4604 […] of population, the home ranges of hunter-gatherer groups increased by only 70 percent.[Link to Density is Natural] This entry was posted in Asides and tagged density, population, upb, urban by Pratik. Bookmark […]

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By: ResearchBlogging.org News » Blog Archive » Editor’s Selections: City Crowds, Helpful Chimps and Mean Baboons, Sexual Satisfaction, and Large Babies https://persquaremile.com/2011/08/17/hunter-gatherer-populations-show-humans-are-hardwired-for-density/#comment-4603 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 22:32:04 +0000 https://persquaremile.com/?p=1420#comment-4603 […] densely populated areas. However, Tim DeChant’s most recent discussion at Per Square Mile on population density suggests that there may be real benefits that could have contributed to the development of complex […]

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